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Speaker placement in awkward room

Hi all

 

I've got a Lifestyle 38 series III and been trying to optimise the speaker placement for my awkward living room. Had a look online and in this community and struggling to find appropriate guidance so alas reaching out again to see if anyone has any ideas please! 

 

I'm happy with the center and front speakers as well as the acoustimass module as I could follow the directions in the manual for those (including by bouncing the sound from the front speakers off the wall) - see first picture below. 

 

The problem I have is in relation to the rear speakers. We're in the process of buying a smaller couch so we can further back but that would then mean we would sit directly next to if not behind the rear speakers (unless I turn them to face our head directly?). Worse, there is a pillar in the corner so not sure if I should put the RL speaker in position A or B. I thought about placing the rear ones in the ceiling but saw that people generally seem to recommend against this? 

 

Any thoughts appreciated. And please ignore the cable-mess - will embed them properly in the walls once position finalised! 

 

 

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Re: Speaker placement in awkward room

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@thomas.h.blum wrote:

Hi all

 

I've got a Lifestyle 38 series III and been trying to optimise the speaker placement for my awkward living room. Had a look online and in this community and struggling to find appropriate guidance so alas reaching out again to see if anyone has any ideas please! 

 

I'm happy with the center and front speakers as well as the acoustimass module as I could follow the directions in the manual for those (including by bouncing the sound from the front speakers off the wall) - see first picture below. 

 

The problem I have is in relation to the rear speakers. We're in the process of buying a smaller couch so we can further back but that would then mean we would sit directly next to if not behind the rear speakers (unless I turn them to face our head directly?). Worse, there is a pillar in the corner so not sure if I should put the RL speaker in position A or B. I thought about placing the rear ones in the ceiling but saw that people generally seem to recommend against this? 

 

Any thoughts appreciated. And please ignore the cable-mess - will embed them properly in the walls once position finalised! 


These speakers are designed to bounce the sound off of the room's walls to give it a larger sound stage. So having the front 3 speakers inside of an alcove isn't really the best. Though as the TV is mounted I can only assume that moving it to another wall is no longer an option. AdaptIQ should help... but there's only so much it can do.

 

If at all possible, I would mount the rear speakers on the ceiling and have one speaker aimed at your main seating location and another bouncing off of a wall or I would have two speakers covering the extremes of the seating locations in that room. 

 

If you are going to have them on the stands, I would have one speaker aimed along the seating locations and another aimed at the closest wall. Though AdaptIQ would probably try to reduce the rear's volume to try and make sure that they aren't too loud for people sitting there and possibly reduce their effectiveness. But luckily you can manually increase or decrease the volume of the rears via the onscreen menu if you so wish.

 

As for positions A or B, they look pretty negligible from the photos you have shared. I think that how you aim the speakers and how it looks in the room would be more important at this point.

 

I should also mention that I made a guide to help people connect their AV38 receivers to modern HDTV's & equipment. That being said I would look at "Option 4" in that guide as your subwoofer can support the upgraded AV35 receiver

 

While the AV35 does not support 4K, ARC, or CEC, it does have multiple HDMI inputs and supports lossless audio. So there is another guide I made for the AV35 receiver, instructing you how to get 4K & lossless audio at the same time.

 

I hope that this helps solve your question. Let us know what you end up doing 🙂

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Re: Speaker placement in awkward room

I would rather have the TV on the larger wall to the left side of the couch if there is room for a smaller couch on the opposite wall or closer to the TV if the room is too long for that.

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@thomas.h.blum wrote:

Hi all

 

I've got a Lifestyle 38 series III and been trying to optimise the speaker placement for my awkward living room. Had a look online and in this community and struggling to find appropriate guidance so alas reaching out again to see if anyone has any ideas please! 

 

I'm happy with the center and front speakers as well as the acoustimass module as I could follow the directions in the manual for those (including by bouncing the sound from the front speakers off the wall) - see first picture below. 

 

The problem I have is in relation to the rear speakers. We're in the process of buying a smaller couch so we can further back but that would then mean we would sit directly next to if not behind the rear speakers (unless I turn them to face our head directly?). Worse, there is a pillar in the corner so not sure if I should put the RL speaker in position A or B. I thought about placing the rear ones in the ceiling but saw that people generally seem to recommend against this? 

 

Any thoughts appreciated. And please ignore the cable-mess - will embed them properly in the walls once position finalised! 


These speakers are designed to bounce the sound off of the room's walls to give it a larger sound stage. So having the front 3 speakers inside of an alcove isn't really the best. Though as the TV is mounted I can only assume that moving it to another wall is no longer an option. AdaptIQ should help... but there's only so much it can do.

 

If at all possible, I would mount the rear speakers on the ceiling and have one speaker aimed at your main seating location and another bouncing off of a wall or I would have two speakers covering the extremes of the seating locations in that room. 

 

If you are going to have them on the stands, I would have one speaker aimed along the seating locations and another aimed at the closest wall. Though AdaptIQ would probably try to reduce the rear's volume to try and make sure that they aren't too loud for people sitting there and possibly reduce their effectiveness. But luckily you can manually increase or decrease the volume of the rears via the onscreen menu if you so wish.

 

As for positions A or B, they look pretty negligible from the photos you have shared. I think that how you aim the speakers and how it looks in the room would be more important at this point.

 

I should also mention that I made a guide to help people connect their AV38 receivers to modern HDTV's & equipment. That being said I would look at "Option 4" in that guide as your subwoofer can support the upgraded AV35 receiver

 

While the AV35 does not support 4K, ARC, or CEC, it does have multiple HDMI inputs and supports lossless audio. So there is another guide I made for the AV35 receiver, instructing you how to get 4K & lossless audio at the same time.

 

I hope that this helps solve your question. Let us know what you end up doing 🙂

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It's really not hard to patch holes in the wall.

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Thanks for your response @Xyz987. Trouble is that the room is very long. I had considered putting the TV on the wall next to the sofa but then I'd have a similar problem with the rear speakers, no? RR would either have to be above the fireplace (where my daughter's painting hangs) or in the corner just before it which would mean that the sofa would need to be very close to the TV in order to have the speakers behind the viewer. Not even sure about RL... 

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Can you post a few more pictures so we can see the entire room?  How high is your ceiling?  I sit 14 feet from my 65 LGOLED C7P and Bose Soundtouch 300.  My rear surround speakers are too close but not much sound comes out of them anyway.

 

You might also consider some sort of diagonal arrangement.

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@thomas.h.blum wrote:

Thanks for your response @Xyz987. Trouble is that the room is very long. I had considered putting the TV on the wall next to the sofa but then I'd have a similar problem with the rear speakers, no? RR would either have to be above the fireplace (where my daughter's painting hangs) or in the corner just before it which would mean that the sofa would need to be very close to the TV in order to have the speakers behind the viewer. Not even sure about RL... 



@Xyz987 wrote:

Can you post a few more pictures so we can see the entire room?  How high is your ceiling?  I sit 14 feet from my 65 LGOLED C7P and Bose Soundtouch 300.  My rear surround speakers are too close but not much sound comes out of them anyway.

 

You might also consider some sort of diagonal arrangement.


I've gotta agree with Xyz987, more information would be needed to help you with that question 🙂

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Nice painting, by the way.  Mitten, bug, sun, jack-o-lantern, I presume.  Winter, spring, summer, fall.

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Nice painting, by the way.  Mitten, bug, sun, jack-o-lantern, I presume.  Winter, spring, summer, fall.


I didn't even notice that. Yea it looks like "Winter, spring, summer, autumn" it is written next to each hand image. Good observation skills 👏

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Haha thanks both - I will pass on your compliments to my 3yo! 😉

 

Okay I've measured everything (though the graph is not to scale) and also found the original promotion pictures from the real estate agent which show both sides of the room. The room is 2.4m high.

 

We've ordered one 3 seater couch, one 2 seater couch and two swivel chairs. The last picture shows how I imagined the set-up (speakers in blue, furniture in green. SC = swivel chair). You can see where my daughter has her artistic talent from! 

 

How would you both do that? Or do you still think it's better to mount the TV on the 3.32m long wall (in which case I could swap the position of the 3-seater with the TV but as mentioned worried I may then not have space for rear speakers). 

 

Any thoughts welcome! Thanks again 

 

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